Author Topic: “Big Guy” Biden Catches Hand in Chinese Cookie Jar  (Read 2761 times)

wmLambert

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« Reply #200 on: October 30, 2020, 02:49:14 PM »
What are you drinking? Taking money from foreigners for influence peddling is not a crime? Are you serious? Yesterday we had a release form the confirmed and vetted Hunter Biden Laptop hard drive that was a recording of him lashing out at his father for taking the goodies away from him and ruining his life.

Again you aren't using confirmed and vetted in their common understanding. A few of the emails off the drive have been confirmed and vetted, but we're still well short of the hard drive copy that Rudy has being a confirmed and vetted copy of a computer actually belonging to Hunter.

Yes I am. The info is from the Senate Select committee and the FBI that has confirmed all the details. The entire laptop is in the custody of the FBI with unbrojen chain of custody. Just as importantly, the Biden campaign nor the Biden family have said the computer is not what it is purported to be. It was dam Schiff who claimed it was Russian collusion, which was immediately ruled a lie by ALL the investigators. There are currently two criminal investigations into this. The oldest one had a separate child porn involved which should have required immediate response, yet somehow got ignored, without claiming not being factual. There is much for Joe to answer for.

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He said Joe had reached out to Devon Archer on the Chinese graft rather than to him and felt he was being bypassed. As scummy a lowlife as he has proven to be, he was actually playing the victim. These are the people you champion?

No one has said "the story is so full of holes it could pass for Swiss cheese." Everything is corroborated. Especially how the MSM and Big Tech has pulled out all the stops to avoid publishing the proof. It is pitiful the depths the Biden apologists are going to avoid facing the music.

He literally quoted a website saying the story is so full of holes it could pass for Swiss cheese. So there is at least one person/group saying that. You have extreme blinders for data/people that contradict your world view and believe the right wing and Trump to the point of being gullible.

There is no one claiming that, using facts. There is no question the Biden apologists want there to be Russian collusion or something else to deflect from Joe's Treason, but so far, no one has denied a single fact, and everything checked so far is confirmed. Crying about meta data is just more deflection. The copies that Mack Issac made are also covered by the chain of custody. All the evidence has proven truthful and uncorrupted, and admissible in court. Hunter lied. Joe lied. Tony Bobulinski outed them with first person testimony. The forensic investigations document everything. Who do you claim as your naysayers?
Adam Schiff? Can't be him, his own investigators said he lied.

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« Reply #201 on: October 30, 2020, 03:12:22 PM »
What are you drinking? Taking money from foreigners for influence peddling is not a crime? Are you serious? Yesterday we had a release form the confirmed and vetted Hunter Biden Laptop hard drive that was a recording of him lashing out at his father for taking the goodies away from him and ruining his life.

Again you aren't using confirmed and vetted in their common understanding. A few of the emails off the drive have been confirmed and vetted, but we're still well short of the hard drive copy that Rudy has being a confirmed and vetted copy of a computer actually belonging to Hunter.

Yes I am. The info is from the Senate Select committee and the FBI that has confirmed all the details. The entire laptop is in the custody of the FBI with unbrojen chain of custody. Just as importantly, the Biden campaign nor the Biden family have said the computer is not what it is purported to be.

Okay, I'm going to cut your response there and respond. What specific info? A few emails have been confirmed I haven't seen anything else be confirmed, like a Ukrainian meeting with Biden in DC in 2015.

The laptop is with the FBI, no one has publicly verified its actually Hunter's. The blind computer Tech in Delaware can't identify who dropped it off.

Biden claimed during the debate the laptop was fake.

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“There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what he’s accusing me of is a Russian plant,” Biden said at the debate. The former vice president said those former officials had concluded that what Trump was citing about his son was “a bunch of garbage.”

And is it your assertation that the FBI has confirmed they have evidence of statutory rape and are doing nothing about it? Because I would like to see that statement from the FBI. The only thing I've seen the FBI say is "no comment."

wmLambert

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« Reply #202 on: October 30, 2020, 03:32:12 PM »
What are you drinking? Taking money from foreigners for influence peddling is not a crime? Are you serious? Yesterday we had a release form the confirmed and vetted Hunter Biden Laptop hard drive that was a recording of him lashing out at his father for taking the goodies away from him and ruining his life.

Again you aren't using confirmed and vetted in their common understanding. A few of the emails off the drive have been confirmed and vetted, but we're still well short of the hard drive copy that Rudy has being a confirmed and vetted copy of a computer actually belonging to Hunter.

Yes I am. The info is from the Senate Select committee and the FBI that has confirmed all the details. The entire laptop is in the custody of the FBI with unbrojen chain of custody. Just as importantly, the Biden campaign nor the Biden family have said the computer is not what it is purported to be.

Okay, I'm going to cut your response there and respond. What specific info? A few emails have been confirmed I haven't seen anything else be confirmed, like a Ukrainian meeting with Biden in DC in 2015.

The laptop is with the FBI, no one has publicly verified its actually Hunter's. The blind computer Tech in Delaware can't identify who dropped it off.

Biden claimed during the debate the laptop was fake.

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“There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what he’s accusing me of is a Russian plant,” Biden said at the debate. The former vice president said those former officials had concluded that what Trump was citing about his son was “a bunch of garbage.”

And is it your assertation that the FBI has confirmed they have evidence of statutory rape and are doing nothing about it? Because I would like to see that statement from the FBI. The only thing I've seen the FBI say is "no comment."

Yes, the only thing you've seen from the FBI was, "No comment." However; the duplicate hard drives (still admissible in court) have given us the video and sound files of child porn and child endangerment. These were turned over to local law enforcement recently, when the FBI stonewalled releasing info that should have been acted upon. Since Mac Isaac owns the hard drives, he can choose to release the info legally to the public. That you haven't seen anything is on you and your sources.

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« Reply #203 on: October 30, 2020, 03:39:41 PM »
Are your sources the same ones that stated that Biden did not release a book in 2017, and did not give speaking engagements in the 2 years following his vice presidency?

Or the one that sent you down the Typhoon Investigations black hole?

yossarian22c

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« Reply #204 on: October 30, 2020, 04:13:32 PM »
Yes, the only thing you've seen from the FBI was, "No comment." However; the duplicate hard drives (still admissible in court) have given us the video and sound files of child porn and child endangerment. These were turned over to local law enforcement recently, when the FBI stonewalled releasing info that should have been acted upon. Since Mac Isaac owns the hard drives, he can choose to release the info legally to the public. That you haven't seen anything is on you and your sources.

How does "No comment" count as verifying all details of what you allege? I'll trust the FBI to do their jobs. I seriously doubt whatever their personal political beliefs that anyone joined the FBI to turn the other way when given solid evidence of a 50 year old man raping a teen.

One key fact, we know Mac Isaac got the hard drive from someone. Since he's blind he can't confirm it was in fact Hunter Biden who gave him the laptop in Delaware while Hunter was living in California.

If this evidence is so convincing and damning why are even conservative media outlets like the NYP and Fox News not putting forth a compelling case. All we have so far that involves Joe Biden is an allegation he took one meeting with someone from Burisma. That allegation was denied strenuously and it was confirmed by his staff that no such meeting was on his schedule for the days in question.

The reality is they realize if they release too much of this crap at some point someone is going to be able to prove something was faked. Once anything on the drive is shown to be faked the story is dead and completely backfires on Trump.

Just consider how unlikely it would be for Hunter to make a video of himself complaining about his Dad cutting him out of some business deal. Why would he be recording himself doing that? Why would he make and keep videos of himself doing drugs and having sex with teens? Why would he keep it on his laptop for years then abandon it with a blind ardent Trump supporter? This story makes no sense.

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« Reply #205 on: October 30, 2020, 04:54:08 PM »
Even if the emails verified were legitimate, how do we know someone didn't add fake ones to the hard drive?  How do we know the videos weren't added to the hard drive?  How hard would that be?

Lambert, for eight years I listened to your same sources swear up-and-down that Obama was born in Kenya and wasn't legally President.

I'm going to need more than those people to convince me there is anything even looking at in this one.

wmLambert

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« Reply #206 on: October 30, 2020, 08:59:21 PM »
Even if the emails verified were legitimate, how do we know someone didn't add fake ones to the hard drive?  How do we know the videos weren't added to the hard drive?  How hard would that be?

Because of the chain of evidence. Since the computer's chain of custody was never violated, Mack Isaac has testified of its integrity as it was given into his custody. Since the paperwork establishes it was given to him from Hunter Biden, himself, what is on it is attributed to Hunter unless he can prove alterations before he turned it over. That has not been done.

Lambert, for eight years I listened to your same sources swear up-and-down that Obama was born in Kenya and wasn't legally President.

That was not my sources. That was Hillary's associate, Phillip J. Berg. (Case 2:08-cv-04083-RBS Document 15 Filed 10/06/2008) The final info from Hawaii is that a whistleblower within the clerk's office said no Obama birth certificate was ever released. BTW; it was Obama's family in Kenya who said they had the legal documents that said he was born there. Obama's mother married Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo in 1967 and enrolled him in a Madrassah that requires only Indonesian citizenship before students may be enrolled. At the time, only single citizenship was allowed, and students had to withdraw citizenship in any other nation. For Obama to become a US citizen again, he had to reapply. He never did.

I'm going to need more than those people to convince me there is anything even looking at in this one.

A Senate committee and the FBI isn't enough?

wmLambert

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« Reply #207 on: October 31, 2020, 12:25:51 AM »
Here's a simple question. There are two official investigations on Joe and Hunter Biden, and the entire Biden Crime family. The Senate sub-committee has stated that the laptop is Hunter's and is not any conspiracy. Independent investigators (There are still a few journalists in the world who would like to earn a Pulitzer for merit.) have vetted all the Hunter crimes as they have emerged from the hard drive. Adam Schiffs own investigators have stated that they gave Schiff zero reasons to believe the laptop is Russian collusion. He lied. Emails have been verified by parties who received or sent them to Hunter. His image and voice have been identified. The child porn has been noted. The Washington Post has stated that all their research has been truthful. Yet the MSM has refused to even acknowledge there is a story. Big Tech has acted as a voter-suppression gestapo agency to prevent the story from reaching the public.

Mt question is, where is your integrity?

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« Reply #208 on: October 31, 2020, 01:06:11 AM »
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/my-resignation-from-the-intercept

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Today I sent my intention to resign from The Intercept, the news outlet I co-founded in 2013 with Jeremy Scahill and Laura Poitras, as well as from its parent company First Look Media.

The final, precipitating cause is that The Intercept’s editors, in violation of my contractual right of editorial freedom, censored an article I wrote this week, refusing to publish it unless I remove all sections critical of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, the candidate vehemently supported by all New-York-based Intercept editors involved in this effort at suppression.

The censored article, based on recently revealed emails and witness testimony, raised critical questions about Biden’s conduct. Not content to simply prevent publication of this article at the media outlet I co-founded, these Intercept editors also demanded that I refrain from exercising a separate contractual right to publish this article with any other publication.

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« Reply #209 on: October 31, 2020, 08:53:24 AM »
And here are some extracts from the draft article in question that Greenwald himself has made public:

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"Thus far, no proof has been offered by Bubolinski that Biden ever consummated his participation in any of those discussed deals. The Wall Street Journal says that it found no corporate records reflecting that a deal was finalized and that “text messages and emails related to the venture that were provided to the Journal by Mr. Bobulinski, mainly from the spring and summer of 2017, don’t show either Hunter Biden or James Biden discussing a role for Joe Biden in the venture.”

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"It is true that no evidence, including these new emails, constitute proof that Biden’s motive in demanding Shokhin’s termination was to benefit Burisma."

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"The Wall Street Journal says that it found no corporate records reflecting that a deal was finalized and that “text messages and emails related to the venture that were provided to the Journal by Mr. Bobulinski, mainly from the spring and summer of 2017, don’t show either Hunter Biden or James Biden discussing a role for Joe Biden in the venture.”...The New York Times on Sunday reached a similar conclusion: while no documents prove that such a deal was consummated, “records produced by Mr. Bobulinski show that in 2017, Hunter Biden and James Biden were involved in negotiations about a joint venture with a Chinese energy and finance company called CEFC China Energy.”

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« Reply #210 on: October 31, 2020, 09:20:10 AM »
BTW; it was Obama's family in Kenya who said they had the legal documents that said he was born there.

No, not "Obama's family" -- merely one his (many) half-brothers Malik Obama who did repost a blatant forgery, which is even anachronistic as it says Obama was born in the Republic of Kenya in 1961, though the Republic of Kenya was only founded on 1963.

Other members of Obama's family in Kenya have condemned Malik (https://citizentv.co.ke/news/auma-obama-calls-out-brother-malik-over-fake-barack-obama-birth-certificate-335849/)

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Obama's mother married Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo in 1967 and enrolled him in a Madrassah that requires only Indonesian citizenship before students may be enrolled. At the time, only single citizenship was allowed, and students had to withdraw citizenship in any other nation.

Any evidence for this? Obama denies that he ever attended a Madrassa. And I find it very strange for a school to have such a bizarre requirement that would affect only a tiny tiny minority of people (people with dual citizenships), so I wonder where you come up with your information, and whether you're just shallowing up lies made up out of thin air.

Most nations don't care about how many citizenships you have, as long as you have the citizenship of that nation. Frankly I've personally only ever seen rightwinger Americans get their panties in a knot over "dual citizenship", not even rightwingers of other nations -- and that's because in America it tends to stand in for either anti-semetism (because of Israel dual-citizenship), or some other aspect of xenophobia/racism.

I'm not saying it's impossible for some Indonesian school to care about it, since I don't know well enough the specific politics of the region, but I will require evidence for you to convince me of that fact, not just your assertion.

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For Obama to become a US citizen again, he had to reapply. He never did.

What I'm reading (https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/us-citizenship/Renunciation-US-Nationality-Abroad.html) is that for a person to relinquish their US citizenship they have to:
- appear in person before a U.S. consular or diplomatic officer,
- in a foreign country at a U.S. Embassy or Consulate; and.
- sign an oath of renunciation.

Do you have any evidence that Obama ever relinquished his US citizenship in this manner?

Or is your whole argument here, that you are trusting the Indonesian madrassah was motivated enough to have properly verified that Obama relinquished the US citizenship according to USA laws, and therefore you fully trust that Obama was no longer a US citizen when he supposedly attended there?

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« Reply #211 on: November 01, 2020, 02:58:38 PM »
Even if the emails verified were legitimate, how do we know someone didn't add fake ones to the hard drive?  How do we know the videos weren't added to the hard drive?  How hard would that be?

Because of the chain of evidence. Since the computer's chain of custody was never violated, Mack Isaac has testified of its integrity as it was given into his custody. Since the paperwork establishes it was given to him from Hunter Biden, himself, what is on it is attributed to Hunter unless he can prove alterations before he turned it over. That has not been done.

Unless, of course, Mack Isaac is lying through his teeth and put alterations into the hard drive while he had it in his custody.  Has that been definitively disproven?

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Lambert, for eight years I listened to your same sources swear up-and-down that Obama was born in Kenya and wasn't legally President.

That was not my sources. That was Hillary's associate, Phillip J. Berg. (Case 2:08-cv-04083-RBS Document 15 Filed 10/06/2008) The final info from Hawaii is that a whistleblower within the clerk's office said no Obama birth certificate was ever released. BTW; it was Obama's family in Kenya who said they had the legal documents that said he was born there. Obama's mother married Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo in 1967 and enrolled him in a Madrassah that requires only Indonesian citizenship before students may be enrolled. At the time, only single citizenship was allowed, and students had to withdraw citizenship in any other nation. For Obama to become a US citizen again, he had to reapply. He never did.


Well, the "Obama's family in Kenya who said ... he was born there" is completely discredited BS.  I would be ashamed to keep repeating such a lie.

The Madrassah contention is something new, but I doubt a minor has the ability to withdraw his citizenship.  I also doubt the requisite paperwork that Obama's citizenship was withdrawn exists.

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I'm going to need more than those people to convince me there is anything even looking at in this one.

A Senate committee and the FBI isn't enough?

Since Republican Senate committees never gather enough evidence to actually charge anyone (how many arrests were made over Benghazi?  ;D ), and since the FBI could just as easily be investigating who put faked emails and videos on the hard drives, the answer is: no, it's not nearly enough.  It's nowhere close to enough.  Why would you think it's enough?  ::)