On slavery: I feel like we're looping a bunch here on a topic that is a tangent of a tangent of a tangent. I'm basically content to leave this one alone at this point.
Josh: One thing that I see happen with you all the time is you think about actions from an abstract, societal-level. You not able to think clearly that way and it's not good to think that way. You don't control society. Morality happens in your hands and in your mind. Not on a social level. The government is not a moral actor.
Fenring: I'm not sure where you get this from, could you give an example? In the post preceding yours I was talking about individuals who grew up believing that slavery is unacceptable, among other cultural developments.
Your comment on abortion earlier in the thread is one example. There are a few other times where I had this impression as well. If you're saying you don't think this way I'll believe you, but it seemed to me to be a pattern.